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Other, the one thing that they hate is the united states building alliances with other countries. because they know they can't do it. so if the united states maintains strong allies, maintains strong alliances, i think we have a strong key to try to deal with these danger points. >> neil: yeah, we keep forgetting they have fewer things. thanks, leon. good seeing you. >> good to be with you, neil. >> neil: leon panetta on all of that. remember john tappa, the bar rescue guy? he's wanting to rescue bars and diners and restaurant owners and he's looking to washington to help him help them after t...

Represents a real threat to the united states, to the region and for that matter to the world. we're dealing with an awful lot of danger points right now, andrea, not just in russia but in north korea, in iran, in china. and with regards to terrorism, there continue to be danger points out there. and i -- i think the only way to confront all of these danger points is for the united states to build strong alliances with our allies because ultimately that's the best way to confront our adversaries is through a unified and strong approach that represents a position of strength and not weakness. >...

Panetta institute of public policy, i had secretary hagel oi want to be fair, ask you both kind of the same question, what gives you cause for optimism or concern as you assess the world today? >> i think there is a lot of danger points, in the world that we're facing, a lot of flash points probably more since world war ii. if you look at the fact that we're continues to confront terrorism in the world. if you look at the fact that there are failed states in the middle east which breed terrorism and you look at china and the threat that china represents to the united states and to the world. r...

And iran which is trying to develop a nuclear weapon, then look at cyber and cyberattacks that have taken place across the world. there are a lot of danger points that i worry about. and the question is, whether or not the united states can provide the world leadership working with our allies to confront those danger points. i'm optimistic if we can develop those alliances. trey: mr. secretary, sometimes politics likes to dumb things down to simple choices, for people who want to be open to either but they want wisdom to know which is appropriate when, what a good rule or a good test to evacua...

Panetta institute of public policy, i had secretary hagel oi want to be fair, ask you both kind of the same question, what gives you cause for optimism or concern as you assess the world today? >> i think there is a lot of danger points, in the world that we're facing, a lot of flash points probably more since world war ii. if you look at the fact that we're continues to confront terrorism in the world. if you look at the fact that there are failed states in the middle east which breed terrorism and you look at china and the threat that china represents to the united states and to the world. r...