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Virginia last year when they helped write about the natural gas inindustry, what we're seei is that a powerful interest whether politicians or industries are very critical of this propublicia program. powerful people don't want local news organizations strong and n independent and doing that. >> that's one of the best testimonials for having if they don't like it. >> we follow the money and get a reaction like this, it shows we're on to something. the governor, he pointed out something inaccurate. >> that's always a thing. we know the facts are not on their side. ken, thanks so much. check out...

Dangerous case.org. we started on an ethical basis. i held an ethics conference at yale to speak about, to discuss the gravity of speaking up and after that, we collected the essays of 37 of the most renowned psychiatrists and mental health experts from around the country and that's how the book came about. we're not trying to medicalize politics, we're trying to meet our professional responsibility to society. >> and dr. francis, your advise for the press? how do you feel the press should handle these on going questions about the president's health? >> the problem is i thought the book was re...

Diagnosed, in fact, i have always emphasized dangerousness over diagnosis. dangerousness is about the situation, not the person. mr. trump as a private citizen would not be such a great danger. i also object to the moral attribution that dr. francis is giving. those with mental illness are no different than the general population. some are good, some are bad. in fact, mental pathology is defined by destructiveness, whether one is destructive toward oneself or against others. it is something we need to treat and address. >> so your advice to the press to outlets like cnn and nbc trying to cover...