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Makes mines unsafe. >> we reduced the number of accidents at massey over the past 20 years by 90%. we're very frustrated that many times the technical competence of the government inspectors is far less than the technical competence of our engineers. and many times, our engineers are overruled by the engineers of msha and other places. we believe that the ventilation systems being dictated on us by the government in many ways are less safe. >> for more on this story, let's bring in daniel cane with the united mine workers of america. mr. cane, the past 20 years, they've reduced the accidents b...

Shoulders of massey energy. >> these miners who work at massey are scared to death. they're intimidated. this company is run like it's 1921, not like the present day. my opposition is, when you talk about criminal prosecution here, now is the time because the people who knew that this was going on, there's no question in my mind that the people at the very top here and the board of directors knew that this mine was in this kind of shape. how is it that a company can be allowed in this day and age to put people in this kind of a position? this is not the worst mine they have. this is the fourth...

I spoke with governor mansion of west virginia last night and told him the federal government stands ready to offer whatever assistance is needed in this rescue effort, so i would ask for the faithful who have gathered here this morning to pray for the safe return of the missing, the men and women who put their lives on the line to save them and the souls of those who have been lost in this tragic accident. may they rest in peace and may their families find comfort in the hard days ahead. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was president obama this morning at an easter prayer breakfast at the ...

Rest in peace and may the families find comfort in the hard days ahead. >> that was president obama this morning at a prayer breakfast. at least 25 miners are dead and rescue efforts continue tonight to search for four workers still trapped. daniel cane is secretary treasurer of united mine workers of america. i have the greatest respect for the men and women who go down in our mines. the guts it takes to go down there every day. what do you hear, what's your hopes, what do you think is going on with the four guys down there right now? >> we try to maintain hope in light though of the horrific...

Daniel cane is secretary treasurer of united mine workers of america. i have the greatest respect for the guts of men and women, men who go down into our mine, the guts it takes to go down in there every day. what do you hear, what's your hopes, what do you think is going on with the four guys that are down there right now? >> we try to maintain hope in light though of the horrific nature of the explosion, it looks very bad. we will hold out hope to the end, but in the meantime, we have to make sure that we, number one, don't endanger the lives of the rescuers and we do everything possible to ...