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Who go down into our mine, the guts it takes to go down in there every day. what do you hear, what's your hopes, what do you think is going on with the four guys that are down there right now? >> we try to maintain hope in light though of the horrific nature of the explosion, it looks very bad. we will hold out hope to the end, but in the meantime, we have to make sure that we, number one, don't endanger the lives of the rescuers and we do everything possible to find out what happened to everyone who was in the mine on that day. >> what do you make of the rescue effort so far? the putting of t...

Everything possible to find out what happened to everyone who was in the mine on that day. >> what do you make of the rescue effort so far? the putting of that drill down there to get the methane gas down there? is that the smart first step? >> i imagine it is. you do have to degas the mine. when there's a mine explosion, it disrupts the mine in a terrible way and gas begins to build up. you have to take that into account when beginning a rescue operation. >> joe manchin, here he is, then i want to get back to you, sir. you know what you're talking about. >> i can't set here and make any exc...

Daniel cane is secretary treasurer of united mine workers of america. i have the greatest respect for the guts of men and women, men who go down into our mine, the guts it takes to go down in there every day. what do you hear, what's your hopes, what do you think is going on with the four guys that are down there right now? >> we try to maintain hope in light though of the horrific nature of the explosion, it looks very bad. we will hold out hope to the end, but in the meantime, we have to make sure that we, number one, don't endanger the lives of the rescuers and we do everything possible to ...