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Looked over at barbara and the daughters, and they were all crying, and she said, "we didn't know, we didn't know." >> through all of that time, all of these dozens and dozens and maybe as many as 200 murders, barbara, you didn't know that anything was up? you lived with this man for 25 years, you knew nothing? >> no. first of all, you never questioned richard. >> you have said in the past that he would sometimes get up at 2:00 in the morning, leave the house -- >> or in the middle of dinner and leave the house, and you'd never ask him why. >> barbara was badly beaten by him. she was not in a ...

>> he was extremely animated. screaming, cursing. "i'm gonna kill you. i'm gonna kill your families." i mean, he was off the wall. >> this is unwarranted. unnecessary. these guys watch too many movies. never showed a badge, never read me my rights, nothing. they think they're gangbusters. 37 guys to pick up one little guy. that's ridiculous. >> kuklinski was charged with five murders -- paul hoffman, louis masgay, daniel deppner, gary smith, and george malliband. >> at the time of the arrest, the car was searched for any evidence, and in the trunk was found the egg sandwiches, and on the egg s...