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The president today talking about "illegal leaks." he has a point in a certain extent they that they probably are violations of the law to the extent people are leaking classified information but there is a parallel in that deep throat mark phelps was an agent in the fbi with his own ax to grind that drove this. >> that's true. and watergate itself was born in leaks. it was the setting up of the so-called plumbers unit that was investigating leaks for nixon that had howard hunt and gordon liddy, the two principal guys that would organize watergate and they initially -- and the reason the white...

Are, maybe find embarrassing things about them, leak them breitbart and soon it's on cnn, god forbid msnbc then we're talking about a different ball game here. >> so that's -- look, that's where -- that's where the sort of -- the real impeachable offense is for nixon came in. there was a bunch of things he did but, you know, one of the things he did was had this group of folks that broke into watergate and did a lot of other things directed at enemies, they discussed -- they tried to break into a therapist's office of daniel elseburg. >> they succeeded. >> which is a crazy thing to happen. wha...

Care about reporting the material independent of the source, but it's also obviously an important story to find out who is the story who's hacking all these e-mails, that is a separate story. >> in the case of barstow, you've got the "new york times," so there's three pages of one tax return in 19 # 6, if it was, here's the back and forth with ivanka, about people she doesn't like. that's what we have right now and we have news cycles that are being driven, pretty clearly with the intent to do this. whoever did it really did want to have the effects they're having. >> right, but chris, i mean,...

Don't care if they broke the law, as a journalist, all you care about reporting the material independent of the source, but it's also obviously an important story to find out who is the story who's hacking all these e-mails, that is a separate story. >> in the case of barstow, you've got the "new york times," so there's three pages of one tax return in 19 # 6, if it was, here's the back and forth with ivanka, about people she doesn't like. that's what we have right now and we have news cycles that are being driven, pretty clearly with the intent to do this. whoever did it really did want to ha...

Odd that they rendered people, kid namd them and put them in changes in guantanamo or that invaded and destroyed a country of 26 million people in iraq and have all sorts of human rights abuses because the idea of asylum is that countries under international law are supposed to protect you from persecution that you're enduring at home, that you're fleeing. he isn't going to venezuela, or ecuador, bolivia, wherever he ends up. he's going there because as daniel elseburg said, this country is no longer safe for whistle blowers. they have an unprecedented war on people who blow the whistle on gov...