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And kids dance. i think we just take the talents, gifts, abilities god gives us and use it to try a make a difference in our community. >> it is very fascinating. i had not heard of it but i've been doing this for 15 years. daniel, what got your interest in this very unusual way of talking about christ? >> some producer friends of mine had told me that they knew of a pastor -- obviously that's paul -- who had a fight ministry in his church. i thought obviously it is very provocative, it is a provocative topic. but i also thought it was an interesting way to explore the confluence of religion a...

You have two people who agree to get in a xe tis against one another. there's no hatred there. some of my best friend in the world i fought before and now we are friends. >> is it a way of getting people to come to church? >> yeah, for sure. by reaching into different communities that maybe a normal church wouldn't reach. the fighters come in for a fight ministry, dancers come in for a dance ministry. archery ministry brings in hunters. if i could play basketball, i would. i'm just 5'0" and can't hoop. >> daniel, you've been a filmmaker for quite some time. doing this, what captivated you most...

That has pastors literally fighting for their faith. >> just because we're strong doesn't mean we win every bat. >> jesus never quits. he never taps out. he finishes what he needs do. >> can you love your neighbor as yourself and at the same time knee him in the face as hard as you can? >> well, the fighters are bringing their message from the cage to the pulpit. unlike "fight club," fight church is something people are encouraged to talk about. joining me to talk about their film, academy award winning director daniel youngey, and paul burris, pastor and former mma fighter from victory church...

Meet a guy like paul that's incredibly passionate about what he believes in. when he says it is two consenting adults doing this, that argument usually flies for me. i really had to change the way i thought about this in the making of this film. i think that's a great documentary, when you come in there with strong feelings and you have to question yourself. >> growing up, going to church my whole life, never went to a fight church. my grandfather is a minister. i guess he would be in favor if it meant more people coming to church. 24th, this is going to be released in boston. people can check...