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is whether such people are inherently evil or whether they are sick. my guest today has spent more than three decades trying to treat some of the most violent offenders here in the uk. dr gwen adshead is a forensic psychiatrist as well as a psychotherapist, and has worked across a range of secure hospitals, prisons and in the community. why does she urge compassion and understanding for those who many brand as being simply evil? dr gwen adshead, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much, zeinab. why did you decide to choose a career where you provide counselling and therapy to people ...

it's the first time in her career the 19—year—old has lost the opening match of a grand slam event. now on bbc news, hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk with me, zeinab badawi. how should society deal with the perpetrators of horrific crimes — the child killers, the serial murderers, sadists and those who commit acts of extreme sexual violence? well, a starting point is whether such people are inherently evil or whether they are sick. my guest today has spent more than three decades trying to treat some of the most violent offenders here in the uk. dr gwen adshead is a forensic psych...

What they've done freely and without minimising. and that takes quite a long time often to achieve. and that's partly why we sometimes do it in groups. so for example, just yesterday, i was having a conversation so, for example, just yesterday, i was about setting up a therapy group for people who killed a parent when they were mentally ill, which, of course, is very unusual. but we found that it actually helps to put people in a group because they can actually talk to each other in honest and authentic ways about what they did and call each each other out when they feel that people are minimi...

Negative scrutiny if something goes wrong. and how do you overcome the taboos of talking about mental health? i mean, you yourself suffered from chronic post—natal depression. so, how does society go around saying, look, we should talk about these things openly? well, i think we've made giant strides, actually, in talking about mental health. and i think it's... i think for those of us who have had problems with their mental health, i think it is helpful to just remind people that mental... periods of mental ill health are not unusual in a long and happy human life, and good treatments exist...