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Subjects bound by loyalty or blood whose destiny they are entitled to control. that rule by judge jackson in a federal court. official tells nbc news the justice department will seek a stay to stop the ruling from taking effect immediately. the white house in a statement said this decision contradicts longstanding legal press dens dent established by administrations by both political parties. will appeal and are confident that the principle advanced by the administration will be vindicated while the ruling only compels mcgahn's testimony, the trump administration has used the now rejected abso...

Long time. in important issues like this, they will often expedite matters on appeal, but they still need to brief the issues. and the core -- look at this. we just had over a hundred page opinion issued by the district court. these kinds of things take time. so that's why congress knows that discretion may be the better part of valor. get what they can today, immediately through negotiation and only press forward if the other side refused and stone walls completely. that's how we get existing case law and future precedent. >> this will not be tied up, the mcgahn issue, before christmas when a...

>> clearly. but in this sea of subpoenas, danny, that have been issued, many people who have been issued a subpoena have just totally ignore the subpoena? how does that happen? if i get a subpoena, eddie gets a subpoena, we have to respond to it. >> they're playing a game of chicken. what we're finding out is that the congress doesn't have a very good enforcement mechanism. so someone who received a congressional subpoena, and if they have the chutzpah, the amazing thing is once you get a new congress in, that subpoena disappears into the either disappears into the ether. that's what the opera...