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That allows innovation but a public sector safety net. what drives us is the tax code. we know that right now the tax code is the advantage to the employers and when employers don't provide health insurance the individual market becomes unaffordable for individuals to provide it. so the ama feels very strongly that we need to make sure that every american has affordable, quality health insurance coverage and then we can also look at how do we reduce the unnecessary cost to pay for it? defensive medicine and the administrative waste that right now dries up health care costs both for the insurer...

I think senator baucus said there were not many differences. by the end of the day it was perfectly evident there are huge differences and that there's a good chance the president was going to have to go this alone if he's going to go. >> larry: dr. rohoc, do you expect some bill to come out of this? >> the status quo is unacceptable and i think it was clear in that room. people recognize we need to do something and stalemate isn't good for the american public. physicians across america will continue to see our patients but it's going to be very difficult when they don't have health insurance....

Very concrete with the american public and i think that what is not coming out is the fact that it's not clear what they're going to start over over. and the reality is that we're not talking about the fact that this bill is about taking a lot of money out of medicare and medicare people don't know what that's going to mean to them. it is about putting a lot of people into medicaid. 15 million people into medicaid at $15,000 a head. we don't know what that's going to happen at the level of the patient and the doctor. i was a littledisc dapsion todae patient was never mentioned and how the pati...