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Nobody wants to know who he is. all they or we, whoever this media -- liberal media cabal, which the trump people really do see existing, these people just want to pin sympathetic on him, want him to represent evil in some sense. >> you say "evil." let me read you the quote that's getting a lot of attention from your piece, which certainly caught my attention. steve bannon told you, dark bs is good, dick cheney, darth vader, say ttansatan, that's po. what did he mean by that? >> he means when the liberal media elite establishment see him as being bad, see him as being dark, see him out without...

Therefore i represent him. this is totally not true. i merely went and did an interview with him and listened to him. >> but that's what's so interesting to our viewers here, because most people have not heard directly from steve bannon. >> exactly, and it's an important distinction. because i think something he sees that nobody is listening to him. nobody knows who he is. nobody wants to know who he is. all they or we, whoever this media -- liberal media cabal, which the trump people really do see existing, these people just want to pin sympathetic on him, want him to represent evil in some s...