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Certain. >> when you say that, what is the connection be that clear channel has? >> clear channel took the money. >> they own the billboards? >> absolutely. but the fact of the matter is that all money is not good money. they know the way the billboards were going up and the communities that they were going up in, that was not a good idea and they've been catching the heat and we want to thank you and other folks on msnbc to really bring this to light. >> how many billboards are we talking about, senator? >> there are about 30 so far across the state of ohio. many of them are concentrated in t...

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