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Know about the flynn case what we knew two years ago. one count. lying. the news anchors, all of them accomplished liars themselves, are upset he is a liar. but you know who else lies a ton is the government. who thought up a system that the government lies to you a at once, including lies to get you to commit crime for which you could be prosecuted but if you misstate a fact or lie you go to jail and they are considered heroes by the lying news anchors. are you happy with a system like that? i'm serious. >> he had pled to lying. >> tucker: yeah. he did. for sure. >> there are other things -- ...

Something much worse? i thought you said you were a lawyer. >> i can only speak to my experience as a lawyer. when you cut a plea deal it's not for the worst thing you do it's a lowest crime -- >> tucker: if you have evidence he has done something else. i want to ask about the government. i'm not defending lying. i'm appalled when i see it on television and i usually do. i'm appalled when clapper lies to government. he committed perjury and cool, he was picked up as an intelligence am lust. no consequences whatsoever. they can lie to you without the limit and without penalty. but if you as a c...

Take three steps back, and we know about the flynn case what we knew two years ago. one count. lying. the news anchors, all of them accomplished liars themselves, are upset he is a liar. but you know who else lies a ton is the government. who thought up a system that the government lies to you a at once, including lies to get you to commit crime for which you could be prosecuted but if you misstate a fact or lie you go to jail and they are considered heroes by the lying news anchors. are you happy with a system like that? i'm serious. >> he had pled to lying. >> tucker: yeah. he did. for sure....

Also lied to michael flynn. but somehow that is not a crime. to restate -- remember this. get a pen. it is okay for the government to lie to you. they do it all the time. constantly, in fact. but if the government ever catches you in a factual contradiction, you are shafted. they can send you to prison, bankrupt you or threaten your children. that's the system we have. america news anchors think it's a great system. they are on the government side on this. most matters. ruling class and they are fully on board. this is the behavior they consider fine. in stark contrast to mike flynn's dastardl...

Bewildered how did i get here? >> i agree on one point. we can all agree that michael cohen would not be going to prison if he was not associated with trump. it's clear this was some form of selective justice at this point. but cohen handled this tremendously. you are in the media business and me, too. this is all about the snapshot and sound bites be. quick. when the memorable sound bite from the sound bite with george stephanopoulos hey, i'm done lying now, that is the memorable sound bite. you had a bad intersue. throw that out there. that should not be the take-away. now i'm really done ly...