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Against the united states. think about that. the russians themselves call what they were doing information warfare. it was nothing less than an attack on our democracy. and our intelligence community has warned us the russians are not done. as promised, michael, i have to and you about this. all the defendants were charged with conspiracy. so complain what that means, and i'm curious if there are some broader implications there that may not be revealed of who else could get caught up in this or what happens if other people knew about this operation and said nothing. >> right. so there is so mu...

The russians themselves call what they were doing information warfare. it was nothing less than an attack on our democracy as a matter of fact. and our intelligence community has warned us the russians are not done. michael zeldin, steve hall, ryan lizza, and julia ioffe are back. as promised, michael, i have to and you about this. all the defendants were charged with conspiracy. so explain what that means, and i'm curious if there are some broader implications there that may not be revealed of who else could get caught up in this or what happens if other people knew about this operation and s...

Up to. >> michael? >> the other thing though, don, so mueller's got multiple work streams under the mandate he got from rosenstein. one of which is -- the first one is to conduct a counter intelligence investigation. this is the first step in his findings about the counterintelligence investigation. i think the second still will be when additional russians get indicted for the hacking. then he has a mandate for what matters may have arisen out of this. and that's the issue of june 9th meetings, the wikileaks communication between don junior and roger stone, the cambridge analytica and jared ku...

Least somebody is seeing what you're up to. >> michael? >> the other thing though, don, so mueller's got multiple work streams under the mandate he got from rosenstein. one of which is -- the first one is to conduct a counterintelligence investigation. this is the first step in his findings about the counterintelligence investigation. i think the second step will be when additional russians get indicted for the hacking. then he has a mandate for what matters may have arisen out of this. and that's the issue of the june 9th meetings, the wikileaks communication between don junior and roger ston...

Interesting from the indictment is you see it wasn't just about sowing chaos, that it was actually a very anti-clinton, specifically anti-clinton operation. you know, they supported bernie sanders. they supported jill stein and donald trump. and the focus of the negativity in a lot of what was outlined in the indictment was hillary clinton. so i think that's also important not to overlook, the fact it wasn't just about trump but it was also about bernie sanders and jill stein. >> steve, i think you want to get in and respond. >> we may be arguing about how many angels dance on the head of a pi...