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Nuclear and missile arsenal. north korea has rejected that claim. so what we need to see his get this in writing. we need to have a common definition on what denuclearization is. if not global arms control. it's denuclearization of north korea. we need to get north korean commitment to international standards of verification. we need to get them to commit to fully abandoning their arsenal and their production capabilities as well as very early on getting a data declaration of the programs. that's all i think very tangible steps that we need to get very early on. >> shannon: any chance we get a...

Not said the straight up it may be going a parallel track. they give something, we give something. what do you think of that kind of strategy? >> it certainly is a strange from previous administration statements. that did nuclear station should be done in one year or at least by the end of the president's first term. i think there been a number of hints by special envoy as well as secretary pompeo and others that the ministration is lowering the bar in the number of issues not requiring a data declaration by the north as early as they were requiring before. sort of stretching of the timelines....

Not said the straight up it may be going a parallel track. they give something, we give something. what do you think of that kind of strategy? >> it certainly is a strange from previous administration statements. that did nuclear station should be done in one year or at least by the end of the president's first term. i think there been a number of hints by special envoy as well as secretary pompeo and others that the ministration is lowering the bar in the number of issues not requiring a data declaration by the north as early as they were requiring before. sort of stretching of the timelines....

How do you think kim jong-un is going to respond to that? >> north korea has always defined it as global arms control. they'll go to zero when we go to zero, the rest of the nuclear powers. and also they define the korean peninsula as including things as the strategic bombers on guam. what we need to do is get a much fuller agreement such as we had with arms control treaties. we need to get that from pyongyang with robust verification. >> and john bolton seems to think denuclearization could be done in a year. does that seem realistic to you? >> whether it's one year or 15 years as outside exp...