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Do with it. >> josh: i will say, what carries more significance in my mind that a resolution is how the integrated operations have become. there've been a lot of articles over the past few days. it's actually pretty impressive how the trump reelecting team and the rnc have been working at this point. it's not the easiest marriage. in this case, it's proving to be -- >> jessica: that brings a point about the challenges, because i don't think that john kasich or jeff flake will be deterred by this. but how can they build a data game as strong as the trump team and the rnc to get a postmark you c...

The formulas pretty simple -- actually come a very strong data game for them now. figure out where the president being deployed would be useful to that candidate, and sent up there. where other candidates may not want him, don't sent him. when you look at the scenes where he's going, it's some of the big senate races where he can be very, very helpful. >> dagen: if somebody doesn't want him, please don't tweet about the republican who doesn't want him there. [laughs] >> just real quickly, republicans are going to get president trump anyway. if i was a candidate, advising one, i would say use t...

Election. so i think it is a tribute to the rnc data program. we were looking at our voters and we knew our likely university. we knew how engaged they were. we did throw some money into south carolina, because a lot of them didn't know about the election. they weren't paying attention. we wanted to make sure we turned them out. we are putting the resources in to win the race. i think that's a good use of resources. all you want in the end is a win. i'm not running up the margins. we could do that in all these races, that wouldn't be a great use of the your resources, it does show the data gam...

Kindergarten class, they have been collecting friends, people who feel a stake in her future. so i think the big question is, how do you make all these people feel involved and feel heard without creating that chaos that destroyed her the last time. i mean, the clintons came to power when big digging up opposition research files is how you win campaigns. the obama campaign really mastered the data game. they're going to bring in the new people. >> opposition research still very much a part of politics. one of the interesting dynamics is you say yourself, the clintons. hillary is going to have ...

Cannot as they watch. >> we are teach ago computer how to go through and look at large patterns and understand what they mean. >> gary angle is head of sim phonemics a company he founded over 15 years ago. that makes it one of the most experienced players in the data game. >> it has information on things like twitter. >> a big part of what they do is scan the web and analyze data. it is not unlike what the nsa will try to do at the sue taw data center. isolate the fragments of data and connect the dots before the threat materializes. >> what do you think would surprise people most about data m...