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Compelling that this may be a milder virus. i can point to the uk data that says, not so sure. and the problem is that right now both in south africa and the uk, the people that have gotten infected are people who have either been previously infected and recently recovered or vaccinated folks. and we expect them to have milder disease. i think we're a week or ten days away from really being able to nail down that question. >> because if it is less fatal, part of me says maybe there's a silver lining to all of this. it's spreading like wild fire, but maybe in the process it's providing a level ...

Part of me says maybe there's a silver lining to all of this. it's spreading like wild fire, but maybe in the process it's providing a level of immunity that heretofore we haven't had. >> yeah, let's be very clear. if it turns out to be milder, it would be terrific. it would help a lot. it would be less burden on the hospitals. it would be exactly what you said, michael, which would give us much more population immunity without people getting really sick. that's the goal. we just don't know. i think the data leans towards it being a less severe disease, but i would not bet the farm on this yet...