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That contention? >> that's right. after trump won the nomination his campaign started series of payments to cambridge in july all the way through mid december, totallying just about $6 million. this is according to f.e. krechlt filings. jared kushner, the president's son-in-law who headed up one of his data operations and is now senior adviser said to "forbes" back in november just after the president won, he said we kept both data operations going simultaneously and a lot shared between them. by doing that we could scale to a pretty good operation, so he appears to be giving credit to cambrid...

Figuring out how to build a bridge between the trump campaign and the rnc so we can analyze the resources they are available. we found they had a pretty good ground force that we could leverage. we used some of our best practices and some of their best practices. we kept both data operations going simultaneously and a lot shared in between them. and by doing that, we could scale to a pretty good operation. so, bob, how do you reconcile the two? >> i think it's difficult to reconcile them, don. i mean, i think the best he's reporting is very important. i also think that we're seeing the nasties...

Our main source for data analytics. any claims that voter data from any other source played a key role in the victory ro are false. there are a few problems, but here is a big one right here. jared kushner who led the data operation told foshs magazine just one week ago after the election we spent a lot of time figuring out how to build a bridge between the trump campaign and the rnc so that we could analyze the resources they had available. we used some of our best practices and some of their best practices. we kept both data operations going simultaneously and a lot shared between them. so t...

>> the trump campaign responded tonight by saying they just took the data the rnc paid for and gave them. here's what they said. once president trump secured the nomination in 2016, one of the most important decisions we made was to partner with the republican national committee on data analytics. we were proud to have worked with the rnc and its data experts and relied on them for our main source for data analytics. any claims that voter data from any other source played a key role in the victory are false. there are a few problems, but here is a big one right here. one that jim sciutto point...

Statement. now also jared kushner, who headed up one of the data operations, also told forbes magazine in an exclusive interview just after the election in november, that after the president won the nomination, they kept both data operations going, simultaneously, and a lot shared between them and by doing that, we could scale to a pretty good operation. kushner said. >> fascinating details. again, on what people close to the trump campaign, working for the trump campaign, wanted to do, tried to do, reaching out to wikileaks, shimon prokupecz, thanks so much for bringing us that story. joining...