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>> what do we make of this? besides the fact that the 2016 campaign apparently will never end. what do -- look, it hurts and we can be snarky about this sometimes. running for president is quite a personal ordeal for anyone who gets in the arena and it hurts and she thought up until the last hour she was going to win. however, what purpose does it serve to trash the dnc, to -- and so on and so forth at this point? >> there was an interesting turn from her yesterday because we've heard the rational about comey and we've heard russia, this is the first we've heard from her blaming the party. in ...

Think there's something to glean from her campaign about what went right and what went wrong, thinking ahead to 2020? >> i think the number one thing we learned when we took a deep dive into both data operations is you really need to craft a data strategy that supports any candidate. the rnc and data trust were very transparent with axios saying they built a data operation that could back any candidate. the way the democrats have traditionally operated is they had in-house operations crafted for specific candidates. bernie sanders had one operation on his own, barack obama had an operation of ...

Calls as described. on thursday nbc news reported that kushner is under fbi scrutiny though not a subject of the investigation like former trump aids paul manafort and michael flynn. as this week, former cia director john brennan publicly acknowledged for the first time his concern that campaign associates wittingly or unwittingly may have been cooperating with russian operatives, though he says he saw no proof of collusion. >> i saw information intelligence that was worthy of investigation by the bureau to determine whether or not such cooperation of collusion was taking place. >> now the sen...

Operations of that campaign. now we learn they are looking at the data operations and the russians have had access in some way to the data operations, which would be very important if you were trying to target swing voters with misinformation as has been suggested. in terms of the contacts with russians, i think the focus could be not so much the contact with kislyak, but the contact with that russian banker and what was discussed from a bank that had been sanctioned by the obama administration at a very sensitive time. that it was an odd meeting. lindsey graham spoke to that. i think there wi...

Center in the campaign and now the white house. what is known about one of the focuses is, it sounds boring, but it's super, super important, the data operations that they have. what is known about that data analytics operation that he ran and why it's now under scrutiny? >> i think that he -- i mean, one thing that jared always has taken a lot of pride in is sort of his connections with silicon valley, with the tech world, which he admires. so, he hired contractors to run this team. so, that was kind of what he oversaw. so, i imagine that what investigators would be interested in -- he gave i...