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That. the question about whether cambridge analytica or nonfrom the trump campaign provided the russians with the raw facebook data and the disinformation campaign that somehow influenced the election. that's the big -- and will robert mueller look into that? >> well he is looking into it. remember in the indictments against the russians facebook is mentioned several times. there is this sort of not -- we don't know it yet but not yet proved connection between the different actors. what he will say is that the trump campaign's insistence now that cambridge analytica was a second rate data mana...

That cambridge analytica was a second rate data management. >> not helpful. >> that had to do with the trump campaign is a bogus explanation. we know when trump won there was focus on the data team led by or chaired by jared kushner and what they were able to do with the information cam principle analytica had. there are strong ties. whether mueller is connecting all of those circles we don't know yet. but he is looking. >> that's got to be the last word. thank you fascinating conversation. i could talk to you both about it all night. it would be great if facebook with people like me who have ...