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That traffic in drugs and guns and human beings. no question, prosecute them. we're talking about moms in this prison that fled domestic violence, sexual abuse, threats to the safety of their children and their sons and we're treating them like common criminals. >> and really quickly, go on. >> my senator from the great state of california is saying there, tcos, something you hear the administration use as justification for extreme policies we are seeing the last couple of weeks and months and through the course of the trump administration. not only are tcos, transnational criminal organizatio...

Thank you all for joining us. this weekend, our colleague, jacob soboroff, he's been doing some incredible reporting, and he has a dateline special on the crisis at the border called the dividing line. that's going to be sunday, 7:00 p.m. eastern, 6:00 central on your local nbc station. coming up, why this picture has everyone asking a lot of questions tonight. later, president trump says there will be a red wave. democrats, of course, have been hoping for a blue one. i'm going to head over to the big board, take a look at where things stand. is there a wave forming? what color is it? a ...

This weekend, our colleague, jacob soboroff, he's been doing some incredible reporting, and he has a dateline special on the crisis at the border called the dividing line. that's going to be sunday, 7:00 p.m. eastern, 6:00 central on your local nbc station. coming up, why this picture has everyone asking a lot of questions tonight. later, president trump says there will be a red wave. democrats, of course, have been hoping for a blue one. i'm going to head over to the big board, take a look at where things stand. is there a wave forming? what color is it? a lot to get to. "the 11th hour" b...

Where whole families are held but there is no 21-day limit. but we do know the prosecutions are backed up. it's going more slowly than people would like despite the prosecutors who have been moved to the border to take care of some of these cases. i think the worry is we would be paving the way for indefinite detention of families, which is a very different issue and just as disturbing for a lot of democrats. >> when we talk about the complexity of polling, the polling showed when you give voters a choice of how to handle families in these situations, crossing the border illegally, the idea of...