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Dollars on mass transit. it has a role in certain parts of the country but tens of billions that could have been used for real infrastructure. >> dave: so there may have been a time when massive projects, there is too many regs to make it efficient. >> i don't see the private market stepping up to do the job. wait a minute, this country is turning into a third world nation. our infrastructure is truly crumbling. >> they are using private contractors and there are questions at that level. we have an oil and gas boom. our infrastructure at that level is poor. there is a bottleneck at the refiner...

The lenders are giving loans to people that are going to default and be repaid by taxpayers. this is scheme by federal government to redistribute wealth from higher earning people that pay higher taxes to lower income people. that is all the is. >> dave: one of problems is we have so many federal agencies involved. we nationalize fannie and freddie. as i mentioned all these programs that the treasury department started. how do you untangle the bureaucracy? >> you let them expire and privatize fannie and freddie and hfa and -- fha. politicians will raise it that is what you see with deposit ins...

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Infrastructure spending in the surplus spend. guess how much highways got? a big, fat zero. in new jersey it was sent on highway ramps to nowhere. >> dave: there are road to nowheres in new hampshire. >> that one ended up in a concrete wall. the scan village, population less than 200, they got a $15 million airport. why not newark or las vegas. it's a big pork barrel project where the states spend the money and they get to a monopoly on this money. >> dave: i am thinking of the big dig in boston and terribly corrupt. scheduled for $2 billion and ended up costing $15 billion. new york has a sec...

Emergency, i worry about my taxes going up. if we want better roads and less traffic it is easy. bid it on these road building to private motivated entities. you will see innovation and prices for the times that you drive those roads. it's through market forces, don't hand it to the government. >> dave: rich, we had an ice rink in central park. it's a beautiful place. the city government was working on it for years and cost overruns and finally donald trump stepped in and said, hey, look, give it to me i'll do it in six months at half the cost. he did it even faster than that. doesn't steve ha...