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Were shivering to the point where our teeth were chattering. and it was like the introduction where dave hasz would get up and it was the first time we had seen him during esoal and everything. and i remember he said, stop shivering. you sound disgusting. and it's, like, dark and it's just a scary environment. >> okay. you're going to have to eat some of this. >> we're going to keep them moving. as soon as your team is done -- >> don't do it or you'll have just as much more. don't spit them out. we'll make you eat them even more. >> i want you to eat one handful. >> let's go. you know you like...

Does it prove true in life experience what i'm saying? don't go out there and say, dave hasz says this so i think that's true. >> basically, i felt like they didn't want us to have emotions. they just wanted us to be these happy people all the time, and they didn't really care what was going on inside of this. >> i think teen mania does this and a lot of christians do this but especially teen mania. they associate whatever is a normal human emotion or interaction or development as worldly so then you have to abstain from it. and they just categorize everything, even, like normal, healthy devel...

Just because it's a thought doesn't mean i'm going to act upon it. >> and if you are real, you show a genuine concern, it's immediately shot down with, oh, well, this is the answer to that instead of, well, let's approach this genuinely. just, like, oh, well -- >> so they had stock answers for everything? >> yeah. >> i was willing to believe anything they said because they were obviously more spiritual than i was. what do i know about god's voice? that's half the reason i went to the academy, to learn more about god's voice. >> anybody else? that's pretty strong right there. >> david hasz give...

Critically thinking what are really my needs, what are my desires, what does got want for me in this situation? >> the thing is dave hasz says you have to think critically. think critically. so it was very confusing and critical. >> it was like, be a critical thinker but follow us. >> don't question anything. >> right. >> we're trying to train young people to think critically. some of the ways we do that, for example, anytime i teach, i tell the young people don't just listen to what i say and think that it's true. you need to think about what i'm saying, you need so say is it in the bible wha...

That's pretty strong right there. >> david hasz gives this definition of honor as the total conglomeration. he said that the whole bible is summed up in honor. we have the honor council and honor code and the honor ring. it's this whole -- you can't even question -- isn't it really about honor? what about, i don't know, love? >> so here we are in texas in the rain in camouflage panchos carrying a cross down the side of the road. when i'm the one cooking, i'm the one calculating the points. i can microwave things. you get to eat real food. we still get to go out. we're just so much smarter abou...