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Make people do what s best for their communities. david, there s people, you know, i talk to down at the hospital in baton rouge, louisiana, who didn t get the vaccine for one reason or another or for a lot of them it wasn t only political but for the ones who are dug in politically. what else could the president possibly do to convince them? yeah, well, i m not sure he could convince them. i don t think he s the most convincing figure for, you know, for example, those trump voters that matthew was speaking of. there can be requirements, though, associated with employment and, you know, i think he can urge where he has authority implement those. by the way, i would always refer to these as requirements. i don t the word mandate has taken on some, you know, really dark implications. we have all kinds of requirements that we live with as part of being a responsible ....
Society, including, by the way, vaccinations for our kids for other diseases in the schools. so, you know, these are requirements, and he ought to apply them wherever he can and particularly as it relates to people who come into contact with children, but i think more broadly as well. hey, david, let me ask you something. i was just wondering why he didn t and the administration didn t take that attitude initially? i think initially they said i m not sure the president has, you know, the authority to be able to do that. but shouldn t that have been the requirement, at least from the folks in the government all along? this is a pandemic, this is a public health risk. this is a requirement. do it or not. and who cares about what people were screaming around the country about we re not going to do it. why not just make it well, maybe they wanted to see what kind of takeup there was as time went on. but clearly at this point, you know, i mean, there s a lot of ....
3.1 t 3.1 trillion or 3.2 trillion, i think that will be a huge movement forward and fund all kinds of things we need. my view is he ll get it done. it may not be exactly what everyone wants but something will get done. they ll get it through. they ll get the votes of the senators by probably giving up a few things or doing a few things there. in the end i think he gets it done, and hopefully gets it done and we can move on to protecting voter rights because fundamentally in my view, that s the most important issue of our time is the protection of voter rights because without that all of this other stuff doesn t matter. amen. david, take us inside the maneuvering, likely going on inside the white house trying to get this done and threading the needle between moderates and liberals. really, we always refer to joe manchin as a moderate. i think he s more of a conservative democrat. he s not really a moderate democrat. we certainly saw that you saw what was going on with obamacare, so ....
Commentator, david axle roud and matthew doud, the former chief strategist of president george w. bush, and the author of revelations on the river. gentlemen, good evening to both of you. matthew, we re now getting a sense of what we ll hear from the president tomorrow in his effort to curb the delta variant and boost vaccinations. is it time to see more sticks and less carrots in this battle against covid? there s been a ton of carrots and very few sticks. i think we need more sticks. it s gone from hesitancy to out and out obstruction to folks getting vaccine. i noticed today i saw information, 91% of biden voters have gotten the vaccine. 50% of trump voters are gotten the vaccine and that number has not risen very much in the last few weeks. i think we re at the point in order to protect the common good, which all of us should have an interest in and move forward, i think we re going to have to start seeing sticks and that s going to start including mandates and ways to sort of ....