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Challenging and you don't know how they play. >> and it's not just this show that was a phenomenon, david, that has led to, you know, growing interest, a real spike in interest in chess. how did covid contribute to that, do you think? >> it was a big contributor. there are a lot of adults and kids alike at home and they started playing chess and they started to love it. there are great online sites that you can join, like chess.com and many others, and there are streamers that hold on line, grand masters, for instance, and ims and everybody likes watching those who plays chess and it just real...

HAMPDEN, Maine — David Bishop spends the school day as a mild-mannered custodian, but before the final bell rings, he grabs his chess boards and pieces and…

And it hasn't stopped spreading across the country and in our state of maine. >> and you have said, david, that chess needs more financial support. you've likened it to a sport. obviously you need a massive amount of brain power to get through these games and these tournaments. what more do coaches like you need? >> i've spoke to many coaches at this tournament, and we all have the same thing to say. we think that chess should be treated the same as other sports, like basketball and football with busses provided for the team and stipends for the coaches so there is actually a position. lot -- ...

HAMPDEN, Maine — David Bishop spends the school day as a mild-mannered custodian, but before the final bell rings, he grabs his chess boards and pieces and be

“The Queen’s Gambit” is playing out in real life in Maine, where a custodian is coaching his schools’ chess teams to national acclaim.