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Moved toward a hybrid system and a lot of high-tech firms have employees working from home, but i'm not so sure whether or not managers need to be burdened with figuring out a hybrid system. we've started to see some feedback, recent stories. listen to anecdotes, this hybrid thing may be more work than it's worth. when did we get to demand effectively four day weekends. that's what you're talking about about. again, certain companies and certain cultures lend themselves well to people being productive wherever they are, that's fine. and they can stick to those models, but the last time i check...

Because they see the help wanted signs and they think they're in the driver's seat. wait until we replenish the work pool and these people that are getting paid. and then see how entitled the employees are when they face no income or getting into the office. charles: it's a wonderful thing for workers to have options about you they should season them to your point. david and danielle, thank you both very much. have a great weekend. to the federal juneteenth holiday. >> i love this part of new york city, we're at a block party kicking off, live music and a lot of food, a lot of celebrating and ...

Found in new york city in covid by facebook, amazon, google. taking hundreds of thousands of square feet of office space in manhattan. i think at the end of the day it's an accountability thing. grown-ups put their pants on and go to work and that's the model that is served for many years. >> and also the opportunity. you've got to produce, you've got to collaborate and have human contact and it probably will help you climb the ladder in the company if you want to go into the office. >> well, it certainly will. we're not talking face time where you're cooped up in an office, that's absolutely ...

America that have been basically abandoned in the city centers. we need them back. charles: you know, david, i hike where-- i like where you're coming from and the hypocrisy, if can go out and about in the city, and covid. with productivity, seems like a euphemism, we can do more with less. so if you're going to push the issue not going back to the office make it a point where they don't need you to come back to the office. >> oh, i very much agree. i'd be really careful if i wanted these people to feel safe going out every night and putting instagram, but doesn't feel safe going to the office...