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Already knew it was coming. now you have in the picture the romney-ryan ticket. you think about a state like florida where that's going to matter. so that's where the risk is. >> democrats are champing at the bit. there's a new book with the middle class, a third of it is devoted to attacking the ryan budget. david, i want to jump to kelly o'donnell, kelly, you've got a little bit more context to how rob portman was informed about the vp selection. >> well, chuck, i've been told rob portman did receive a phone call from governor romney tonight letting him know that he would not be the choice. ...

It will be interesting to watch the two of them go up against each other. both very good verbally, but there you will have a generational change as well and that will be a big contrast. i agree with david and you that this is clearly going to be fought on economic policy and very bright lines and sharp contrast. you do have to pass somewhat of a test on foreign policy and show that you're ready for that 3:00 a.m. phone call, but that's mostly for the top of the ticket, less so for the vice presidential candidates. certainly that's the strength of joe biden. paul ryan, i think, with some studyi...

Of oklahoma. the borns of oklahoma are democratic royalty. david born, the long-time senator from oklahoma who retired, i believe in 1992, he was the chairman of the senate intelligence committee. he's now the president of the university of oklahoma and has been for many years. and his son is the congress member, so they are democrats. in fact, jana little's sister lives in bethesda, maryland. and paul ryan when he's not sleeping in his office, i know this myself, he has said that he stays with his sister-in-law's family. he's a very low maintenance guy and does go home to jamesville, wiscon...

Be allowed back on the ground at 4:00 tomorrow morning. so folks setting up for their live shots ought to get an opportunity to check out the set of the romney campaign. they've shown craftsmanship so far at the events they've had. with the battleship behind me, that should be the case against tomorrow morning. >> garrett, we've been talking for every little sign. you pointed out a few hours ago, you wouldn't believe the senior leadership that's following the campaign. i know you sent a note saying the entire senior team seems to be with romney. something is up. thank you very much. >> i want ...

Bright-lined election that you've been talking about may be taking place. >> and i think if you look at how the obama campaign is also talking about this campaign behind the scenes, they want as much of a distinction between these two candidates as possible. well, evidently mitt romney wants that as well. because he is now with his choice of a running mate, expected to be paul ryan, would paint a bright red line that says we're for this and the president is for something else completely different in terms of the role of government, what government ought to do in a down economy and how governme...