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The outpouring of support for scott prouty captures the importance of what he did. people understand the courage it took to come forward. this is not the first time scott prouty put his neck on the line. here's another part of my interview with him. it sums up scott prouty, i think, pretty well. >> there was a story about you that you stopped on the side of the road of an accident and jumped in the everglades and saved a woman and her child. is that true? >> it was a single mom, the baby seat was in the car but there was no child in the car. but, yeah, it was a few years back, five years back ...

Georgia. and john heilemann an msnbc political analyst. first of all, the iowa caucuses january 3rd. mitt romney's making a push in the hawkeye state. romney is now playing to win the iowa caucuses, television commercials are on the way, volunteers are arriving, and a stealth operation is ready to burst into view in the weeks leading up to the caucuses. let's go to david on that. is this going to happen out there? is he entering? >> well, yeah, he's entering, taking out ads. he's opening the campaign office. they didn't have a grand opening, he's trying to have it both ways. he wants to compet...

Did he jump or was he pushed? we will hear from media matters. let me finish tonight with the paranoid style of american politics. wait until you hear this one. let's begin with who gets the blame if the government shut downs this friday. david cornyn, mother jones and john feehery, always a good sport and a republican strategistville to be a good sport tonight, 'cause you are in the losing end of this titanic. 800,000 workers with would be furloughed, off the job, pay to troops halted, irs refunds to people suspended, checks won't go out, fha loans interrupted, that's -- interrupted if it...

Leadership. they are all saying the same thing which is we do not want the government to shut down which is far different than what happened in 1995 and '96 when they said they did want the government to shut down. this is my point. i believe that the whole -- both slides get the blame. i think is bad for president obama as well. >> but what they are saying, john, is if you don't really give us more -- more than half of what we want, we will see a government shutdown. they asked for $61 billion in cuts. we are now up to $33 billion that's over half. they only control one house -- >> david. >> ...

Scenario. we're not in a business cycle any more, it's a dilution. it's not an unemployment rate. we're going to stay up there around 8% to 9% for the foreseeable future because we cannot create jobs for a lot of people right now who aren't trained right now, the old industries are dying and they're not going to get back to work for a long time, like four or five years, if they ever get back to work. >> it's absolutely viable. this is called, as everybody is saying the so-called new normal. and it certainly is the new normal. bottom line, business managers today that i'm speaking to that are r...