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Seekers is to convince officers that they have a credible fear of persecution in their home countries. and about 75% meet that criteria. some applicants for asylum have suspicious list similar stories using identical phrases. many simply use the system to enter the u.s. and then melt into the shadows or gain a work permit while their application is pending. asylum is meant to be granted to a very small number of people in extreme circumstances. not as a substitute for the process of immigration itself. yet, the two have gotten mixed up. as the atlantic's david fromm has pointed out, the idea o...

Some applicants for asylum have suspiciously similar stories using identical phrases. many simply use the system to enter the u.s. and then melt into the shadows or gain a work permit while their application is pending. asylum is meant to be granted to a very small number of people in extreme circumstances. not as a substitute for the process of immigration itself. yet, the two have gotten mixed up. as the atlantic's david fromm has pointed out, the idea of a right to asylum is a recent one dating to the early years of the cold war. guilt ridden over the rejection of many jewish refugees durin...

Too late to move with this. and so we're going to be put in a terrible predicament. >> let me very quickly -- because we're going to have david fromm on the show later. he argues don't impeach and if by focusing on all of these issues by doing all thaez different many hearings, democrats are able to really keep donald trump trying to put his finger in everywhere. and he can't do it. that's one good reason to do it the way they're doing it now. that they're letting their candidates campaign. and that they can always push impeachment if he wins re-election. >> that's a great strategy. oh, let's ...

Stance. and you can really feel the growing frustration between growing in the base about the action to counter trump and what he isco doing to the presidency. not everyone agrees that pelosi's take is wrong. there was a proposal that the wisestop remedy is not impeachment. david frum. he is joining me now. make your case, why is pelosi right? >> he is is right, first there is no question that trump is corrupt, authoritariauthoritari second the result of an impeachment process will be acquittaled by the senate. so when you talk about impeachment you have to say what is the result of an impeach...

Fight, and literally they went bankrupt. they went into being called russia again as opposed to being the soviet union. you know, a lot of -- a lot of these places you are reading about now are no longer a part of russia because of afghanistan. >> our colleague, rachel maddow, responded last night as only she can. >> and you may not care at all why the soviet union invaded afghanistan in 1979. that is fine. but the president randomly volunteering that analytical take on that matter yesterday ought to pique your interest, because that view does not exist in nature in this country. the only peop...