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Little bit? >> no, it only -- >> because you talk about this a lot. >> i do. >> right? >> because i'll tell you why i do. because what always bothers me is false stuff, untruths. that bothers me. >> joining me now, cnn political commentator, errol louis, "washington post" political reporter, gloria borger, and david gurden. david, it's interesting, hearing michael d'antonio talking about his perception of the man he spent thours interviewing donald trump for this biography, he called donald trump a bottomless pit of need. and a lot of people have talked about sort of a neediness that they have...

David, there's a big difference between some polls being inaccurate and outliers, or being downright crooked or rigged, which is what trump is claiming. >> that's true, anderson, and my experience has been over a long period of time, working on polls, is that there is great incentive on the part of the pollster to get it right. every one of these news organizations that's taking polls is in competition with each other. and if you come up over the course of a season, if you've been consistently wrong, you get hurt in the market place. this is what capitalism, the forces of capitalism have an ef...

Is now. it wasn't that sort of a relationship. i don't know if he has those. >> that's exactly right. the only people who played that role at the conventions were his kids. they were the ones who knew him well, that were close to him, that spent time in trump tower and could speak to who he was as a person, because he doesn't have those close relationships or those other business associates up there. >> and all the stories they told was being in the office, while they worked, him coming into the office. which i'm not criticizing, but it is perhaps, a very obvious reality of when you -- to get ...

A very challenging electoral college map. and he's got to turn, you know, some of those states that romney didn't win red, and he's having trouble with the romney states. utah, comes to mind, for example. so, the trajectory seems to be clear, but honestly, i think it's pretty stable. >> this whole idea, david, of a rigged system, a crooked system. if donald trump loses by a clear and significant margin, both in the electoral vote and the popular vote win me, i mean, wh you think he'll do on election night? >> i don't know, anderson. i think it all comes back to that very revealing set of inter...

Favorable to trump than, say, the abc poll that came out and showed hillary 12 points ahead. those questions are interesting, but look at the poll of polls and watch the trend lines. >> gloria, there are those years in 2012 like obama and romney, where the polls are so tight, no one really knows what to expect, and yet, this year, does it feel like that to you? >> no, it doesn't. i think when you take the averages, as david is talking about, and you look at it over a period of time of the last few months or so, this race has been surprisingly stable. we do have outlier polls that give hillary ...