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Matters? david, on the russia angle, you had kellyanne conway, not sure why but she was interviewed talking about the russia story being just a joke or something. i forget her words. i don't really listen to them. but also anthony scaramucci talking about the president not sold on -- first of all, just characterize for us, do you it this russia story is a big story? >> i think it is one. more to the point, it's a story that's being investigated by a special counsel highly respected lawyer robert mueller. he is now commanding the resources of the fbi, of a staff of top investigators and prosecu...

Open up your -- you can't help but to read them. >> right. >> i'm just so curious as to how they get around that. >> it raises questions. the other part of this that has to be unraveled is for all of the efforts on the part of jared kushner and others to explain away all the conversations, what's very difficult to explain away are the policy decisions the trump white house has made in the first six months with regard to russia. >> right. >> we've seen all along, even, you know, jared kushner appears to acknowledge that there were conversations about relaxing sanctions against russia. >> right....

Anyway, it's -- this material is out there now, and whether it's accurate or not, if you supply this material to a congressional committee under subpoena, you're in trouble if it turns out to be false. >> yeah. no. absolutely. what did the don junior subject line say? >> subject line was russia -- clinton -- private and confidential. >> i don't know how you get around that. kasie hunt, jump in. >> to kick up on what david was saying and you've been saying this as well throughout the morning. this is clearly a concerted effort on the part of team kushner for transparency. the statement says kus...

They support him when he tweets. >> you're not on twitter. >> the people on twitter enjoy it. >> it creates a war where he's the one that's the victim. >> one other person who i think at least based on the comments he's made so far at his new job, and this is not insignificant, it sounds like scaramucci likes it that the president tweets. he says the president is a great communiq communiq communique or the. >> i think he likes the approach that trump has going directly to the people and using twitter. >> david, clint is talking about something that could be incredibly dangerous. >> it's danger...

Steve? collin? >> collin is not here. >> david jackson. >> david is not here. >> okay. this is silly. okay. next. stop shaking your head again. shawn! shawn! shawn! >> come on saen. >> that's just -- he will be missed. but at the same time, josh, it's not an easy -- he was put in a bad position from day one. >> he was put in a terrible position from the first day before he had a chance to get started. you go at him in a position and making false claims about the inauguration that were disproved and then walking out without taking any questions. there are so many challenge that's we can sift th...