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Happened in '86 that reagan actually signed into law that would give 2 million illegal citizenship, only about half of them accepted that now we're at this place where 20 million. if we don't fix this now, and the president agrees with pelosi and schumer on this, we're never going to get security. so this is the president's stand, and i think there's a great opportunity here for opposite sides, a divided government to come together. give a little on each side. and let's secure the border, put america, our interests, our security first for once here. >> it does seem -- i think david, people tak...

Citizenship, only about half of them accepted that now we're at this place where 20 million. if we don't fix this now, and the president agrees with pelosi and schumer on this, we're never going to get security. so this is the president's stand, and i think there's a great opportunity here for opposite sides, a divided government to come together. give a little on each side. and let's secure the border, put america, our interests, our security first for once here. >> it does seem -- i think david, people take issue with the numbers, the president has talked about 20 or 30 million, there are a ...

Having a drone fly overhead, i think nobody knows much more about technology, this type of technology certainly than i do. having drones and various other forms of sensors, they're all fine, but they're not going to stop the problems that this country has. >> nobody knows more about drone technology than the president. the president claimed americans want this wall. a majority do not support it, in any event, beyond support, there's a question whether the kind of wall, barrier or what the president envisions would work. i want to get two views on that right now. joining us is david lepan who s...

Bill clinton. he brokered a deal with duncan hunter, the first congressman, the father in san diego, when he offered a three barrier, three layers, three different walls, at certain portions of the border where high traffic proven smuggling routes were, or there's built up urban centers, that's what exists northwest of tijuana, south of san diego. and bill clinton, actually approved, signed into law two walls, two barriers, and that never was achieved. this isn't a democrat or republican issue, we should be pushing for secure borders and safety in enforcement of the law. >> david, what is wron...

We've had many of the leaders on both sides of the aisle vote for this many times, this has long history, the great credit of bill clinton. he brokered a deal with duncan hunter, the first congressman, the father in san diego, when he offered a three barrier, three layers, three different walls, at certain portions of the border where high traffic proven smuggling routes were, or there's built up urban centers, that's what exists northwest of tijuana, south of san diego. and bill clinton, actually approved, signed into law two walls, two barriers, and that never was achieved. this isn't a demo...