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Is the state department more culpable than, perhaps, you personally first realized in terms of what they asked to be removed? >> culpable of what? what we saw from the beginning was the cia took the lead in drafting talking points and that the talking points that became the source of all this foe controversy stirred up by republicans were drafted by the cia. and what the release of these e-mails show is that republicans are wrong. they were wrong then and they're wrong now. >> all right. here with us now from washington, moderator of "meet the press," david gregory. i want to ask you about tha...

Just the white people , white people . white people. no. why are we intentionally leaving others out? there are black founders. this is our good friend david barton, the founder and president of wall builders. also author of "setting the record straight: american history in black and white." come on up here and sit here. we have lucas morrell, professor of washington and lee university in virginia. welcome. he is also the author of "lincoln's sacred effort." okay. david let me -- where do we start in maybe we should start with -- >> james armisted. a great one. james armistad after the battle ...

Say ing it was just the white people , white people . white people. no. why are we intentionally leaving others out? there are black founders. this is our good friend david barton, the founder and president of wall builders. also author of "setting the record straight: american history in black and white." come on up here and sit here. we have lucas morrell, professor of washington and lee university in virginia. welcome. he is also the author of "lincoln's sacred effort." okay. david let me -- where do we start in maybe we should start with -- >> james armisted. a great one. james armistad af...