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Are extreme. what he's trying to advance and what he's got done are mostly pretty popular things. even things that weren't popular when they got passed. health care is an exception to that. i think the american people are still undecided. 55-45 on that issue. the things the tea party supports, that is what is extreme. if the only measure you have are national polls, the tea party is a very far right. >> but to david's point, it does seem like there is a sense on the left of giddiness around this shutdown that it's working. in fact, i thought it was really inappropriate that the vice president ...

>> 261 -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> bush turned record surpluses into record deficits. and that's a fact. but we have to go to a break right now. we can continue this when we come back. david, in a minute i want to ask you about proof that voters are getting tired of these antics, tired of being pushed around by the tea party. [ male announcer ] this is brad. his day of coaching begins with knee pain, when... [ man ] hey, brad, want to trade the all-day relief of two aleve for six tylenol? what's the catch? there's no catch. you want me to give up my two aleve for six tylenol? no. for my kne...

States. >> shamefully. >> republican court. >> this was crammed down the people's throats. it is not popular. and obama has refused to back off of it at all because, as matt lauer said, i endorse what chris matthews said. this is obama''s baby. this is not about obama and his narcissism. no offense. i know you used to work for him. this is about the best interests of the united states. i don't care if it's his baby. he is going to bring down his own party because of obama care. he lost 2010 because of obama care. 2012 because of the limbaugh theory um, never held accountable for his own action...

Welcome back to "crossfire." we're talk about washington's dysfunction. both president obama and speaker boehner held afternoon press conferences today, and it turns out people are getting really tired of the tea party's antics. even republicans. in fact, the "washington post" reports mainstream republicans are starting to run in primaries against tea party members. in one new poll shows only 52% of republicans approve of how their party is handling the budget negotiations. 45% disapprove. so the facts are adding up. the tea party is getting stale. david, it's not just democrats who are saying...

Always had economic just by the population increases you increase growth. we have got egregious unemployment, sustained, egregious unemployment rates. and more people leaving the workforce than ever before. this is a scary time. i think we're on borrowed time because of the continuous money that the fed is pumping into this thing. >> this is such a scary time, david, it's no time to toy with the nation defaulting on its debt. it's no time to cause a situation where you could spike interest rates that would affect everyone from students who have loans, small businesses that are trying to grow, ...