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Influence senators necessarily. but, listen, the senate races next year are in super competitive states, pennsylvania, wisconsin, arizona and north carolina. and if you have the same suburban flights away that trump witnessed, democrats have a good chance to perhaps two to three seats, which is incredibly necessary because the 2024 senate map is pretty brutal for the party. >> both david and tim are staying through the break. chalk up another loss for the former guy. he was just beaten by florida's governor in a conservative straw poll. the gop presidential primary plot thickens when "the 11th...

Support team, including body guards. so when you now extend it from the cfo and people on his immediate circle, high ranking people to his bodyguards, and i'm not saying they're low ranking but people in a different role certainly getting tax free advantages, getting housing, getting apartments, getting benefits, i think that he really, really has much to be concerned with as do the people around him. in fact, they have all been advised to seek their counsel. so my money is on -- >> do those prosecutors need weisselberg to flip? and what about what david said, that you have somebody that has b...

Democrats: republicans don't want you to win. it's that simple. they want no successes on your watch, and they certainly don't want to participate in said victories. so what does that leave the democrats, david? >> well, listen, joe manchin himself talked about maybe we could bring the threshold down to 55. that's worth pursuing. but i tend to agree with that column. i don't think you will get five republicans. we have carve out around judicial dominations. i think we might have to get creative here, that to protect our democracy, the right to vote, we're willing to do that. i think we ought t...

Him pointing his finger and chastising the media and chastising the liberals is what got donald trump popularity. i think desantis has a lot of dangerous qualities. i think the way he sucked up to trump has been abombable. it wasn't anything special. he was the median republican governor. they all did the same thing. they all made mistakes and tried to turn masks into a culture war. he wasn't any different than the governor of oklahoma in that regard. he made it seem like he was fighting some big fight that isn't any different than the rest of the party. >> but that's kind of the question, isn...

Voters doesn't matter anymore, that there is no pressure to be put on these senators? >> yeah. i think it doesn't matter as far as getting the senators because i don't think the votes are there. i think it matters very much as far as 2022 is concerned about whether or not an insurrectionist like kevin mccarthy, the speaker of the house and the democrats should do everything possible to focus on the popular stuff as far as safe guarding democracy and not worry as much about all the things that some of the interest groups might wish they could put on the bill. >> you're nodding there, david. >> ...