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Operations and things like that. the intelligence community would have had an up roar if that were the way in which these documents were being treated. also problematic is the fact that donald trump when he wanted to de classify in the russia investigation to harm his political opponents, he went through a certain process to do it. he didn't say, take 'em out of the oval office and say they're magically declassified. so it is not surprising that mark meadows is saying now there was no standing order to de classify. i mean it is like finding out, as i said to andrew weissmann the other day, it ...

Work. it is not how an intelligence product works. any document that travels from one building to the other on the 18-acre complex would automatically be declassified. it would involve calling the intelligence agencies, calling american allies, calling the nsa and the cia every night to tell them what he took with him. i mean it was nonsensical, but to now have it completely confirmed in black and white there never was any such thing as a standard declassification order seems like a devastating legal fact from a pretty authoritative witness against trump in mark meadows. >> 100% of the calls. ...

Superseding indictments and know that case is ongoing. i would guess he is not out of the clear just yet in any case. but i do think he made an effort at least with the federal prosecutors to give them enough information to try to act as neither a pro-trump witness nor an anti-trump witness. that was his strategy going in, to not be very negative about trump but also not defending trump. we know from abc news that he did tell them that trump had not given an order to de classify a broad declassification or which, you know, many people at the white house had said, but we know he said that direc...

Special counsel. he was even confronted and with trump's own words, his allies are still defending him. >> he said point blank, on tape, as president, i could have declarified it and now i can't. he said if his own words, it is on tape, as part of this indictment, that he did not de classify the materials. therefore it is -- >> saying he could have, saying could have is not the same as saying that he didn't. >> he said now i can't. >> he said that -- now he can't. right. because he's not president now. but when he was president he did de classify. he said that. >> let's discuss all of this wit...

Players. we've seen them engage to get around different kind of priv healths and we're in the phase but when there will there be a decision on charges one thing that we were taught this week, we don't know because there are people like general milley that we didn't know about and they have this kind of evidence. that is a reminder to all of us that there is a lot we don't know. >> this week i spoke to jim trusty and here is what he said about all of this that paula has been reporting. >> the president has unfettered authority to do what he wants with documents that he's taken from the white ho...