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Some very clear steps at de-nuclearization, that's not going to be easy. this is a very, very tough object tich. it's going to require inspections, the kind of verification to make sure that they're doing what they say they're doing. and they've never quite agreed to that in the past. so there are a lot of very heavy issues here that are going to have to be worked out. i'm not sure all of this can be done before a summit. so i'm looking at a summit that may be laying some framework for discussions. but the hard negotiations are going to have to take place afterwards. >> i want to turn now and ...

Having a cultural exchange. an apology is significant because we just don't see that from the north, especially on the issue of media access. we've also heard today from the acting ambassador here in south korea, the u.s. ambassador saying he's hopeful. optimistic but also realistic. the key is this is when they hash out the agenda on wednesday, have de-nuclearization will be on the agenda. it's crucial on wednesday. we'll have another test on how serious the north is. halle. >> there's the sort of foreign policy, national security element of this. there's also the trade element of what's happ...

And embraces has obscured a key point. it is trump who has made concessio concessions, not kim jong-un. america has long held the position that until north korea took steps towards a de-nuclearization, there would be no talks. until recently the trump administration itself insisted that it would not reward the nuclear buildup with negotiations. now, there's a good argument to be flexible on this procedural issue, but we should be aware that so far kim jong-un seems to be executing a smart strategy brilliantly. he embarked on a fast track buildup, creating a genuine nuclear arsenal with missile...

Do you worry it's now going to be yes men all the way? >> well, again, the secretary of defense is not a yes man. the question is though whether he will be marginalize. and we'll see who comes in as national security adviser ultimately, and mike pompeo, there's an old saying, where you stand depends upon where you sit. my question for mike pompeo, is he in favor of tearing up the iran agreement when he was on the hill, or does he now take responsibility for the full dimension of american foreign policy? have a serious, practical approach, maybe entertaining an agreement with the north koreans ...

Person for the job at this critical juncture. he will continue our program of restoring america's standing in the world, strengthening alliances, confronting adversaries and seeking the de-nuclearization of the korean peninsula." what's your reaction to this? >> mike pompeo has the president's confidence. if you're a foreign ally of the united states or a foreign adversary of the u.s., you want to be negotiating with the person that has the president's ear. we've known this all along that there's tensions between tillerson and president trump. now that's been fixed. he may not have liked the m...