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Welcome back. i'm dana bash. the president of south korea says the north koreans still want complete de-nuclearization after a surprise meeting with kim jong-un at the dmz this as president trump said late saturday that the historic summit between the two leaders may still go on as scheduled in singapore on june 12. here with me to discuss this is former director of national intelligence james clapper and also the author of facts and fears, hard truths from the life in intelligence. i want to ask about north korea. let's first talk about what you just heard from the former new york city mayor,...

Measure of success at this point. expect kim jong-un to layout a plan for de-nuclearization in the coming months is realistic. >> let's talk about this with my panel, a cnn panelist and editor and publisher of inside elections, a historian an a professor at princeton university, good to see you both. all right. 'we're talking about de-nuclearization. we haven't heard much from president trump about what the u.s. is willing to concede with north korea. could that ultimately sink the talks or the potential outcome of any talks? ? it could, there is nothing once they are meeting and in discussion...

Tells president moon that he is considering de-nuclearization of the entire peninsula. wow. that's nobel prize stuff. >> the president certainly hopes so. you are talking about north korea i have to ask because you brought it up, the president last night said in the oval office that the talks are going very, very well. you are talking to us about it. are you talking to the president about north korea, as well? >> he talks to me about it. it depends on our timing is driven greatly. for example, if they put this thing on we literally can't get much done until after the 12th nor would anybody wan...

De-nuclearization. >> i think we have to live with that. i think north koreans realize that toll de-nuclearization on their part is not in their national interest. that's how they see it. ultimately, i remain convinced he does not want to de-nuclearize. in fact, he will not de-nuclearize, he wants to give out this perception, he's an open leader, he's peaceful, he's reasonable. >> is president trump going into this sum with realistic expectations of what north korea is willing to give up? >>. >> reporter: i don't know if president trump is. certainly he has had advisors that are. john bolton h...

Having interpreted wrongly already. if we had an open mind we would recommend to the president. we are a little bit away from that. i thought we were closer last week when we talked because of the summit. the summit is i think going to happen now and on our terms. i can't believe kim jong-un is talking about de-nuclearization. >> you said earlier this week that president trump was more likely to sit down with the north korean dictator kim jong-un than special counsel robert mueller. does the president see robert mueller as a bigger threat than kim jong-un? >> no, no, no. in the case of unen k-...