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18 minutes past the hour. time now for your friday edition of "scrambled politics." charles koch has been made out to be a billionaire boogeyman by some of the left, but does he identify as a republican? >> i consider myself a classical liberal. >> classical liberal? what does that mean? >> classical liberal is someone who -- who -- who wants a society that maximizes peace, civility, tolerance, and well-being for everyone. >> put the polls aside. here's a way to tell who won the debate. when hollywood legend dick van dyke de sade. >> i believe bernie sanders did win -- >> oh, good. let's hear about that. so you watched it all. you thought bernie won? >> pardon? >> you watched the whole debate, you thought bernie won? >> absolutely. yes, i think that bernie sounded an alarm that's been around for -- a problem that's been around for about 100 years. he warned us becoming an oligarchy and i'm afraid perhaps he's too late. >> all right well that settles

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