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Doing an end run around the confirmation process and for a short period of time, that could be enough to derail the investigation. >> let's talk about that. sam, sessions might even resign. if you put that kind of pressure on him. we know he's offered to do so before and for some reason there are some senators that have spoken to him and have encouraged him to live to fight another day. and he came out with a pretty strong statement contrasting that of the president's comments last week. but mueller is not going to resign. so in the end how does that play out? there are some people who say may...

There's a sort of an informal deadline giuliani has talked about. and a preliminary finding report thad could guide them, so in terms of timing it's not entirely clear. in terms of personnel that's equally unclear. yes, you could see president trump getting rid of sessions, you could see a messy confirmation about sessions' replacement. but you could see an interim idea, that was rumored when we had the talk of scott pruitt potentially switching over from epa, the way of doing that was that particular route. i will say this and maybe the lawyers and prosecutors on the panel will know this bett...

Should understand is that giuliani full well knows that he can get away with this because this isn't in a court of law, and so he's just taking advantage of that and saying things that most criminal defense attorneys would not say or do. this is not how they act. >> barbara, i want to talk about this michael cohen tape we all heard some weeks ago. and when we heard it we assumed the reference was about a pay off to karen mcdougal, a playboy playmate. now that we have this new information, this new reporting about all the dirt that the national enquirer was collecting on donald trump from the '...

I have a better education than they do from a much better school. the elite -- they're the elite. they're the elite. i went to better schools, i went to better everything. and by the way -- by the way, you ready for this, and i'm president and they're not. >> he sure is. that was earlier tonight but over the past few weeks the president has been ratcheting up his attacks on some his favorite targets. robert mule,b the justice department, the fbi, the media. just about anyone considers an opponent. bill crystal sent this out as the president was in the middle of his tweet storm. trump's melt do...

The elite -- they're the elite. they're the elite. i went to better schools, i went to better everything. and by the way -- by the way, you ready for this, and i'm president and they're not. >> he sure is. that was earlier tonight but over the past few weeks the president has been ratcheting up his attacks on some his favorite targets. robert mule,b the justice department, the fbi, the media. just about anyone considers an opponent. bill crystal sent this out as the president was in the middle of his tweet storm. trump's melt down, i ponder if mueller's team has told giuliani they're no longer...