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What you are talking about as chad pergram pointed out our resident capitol hill expert, we are talking about pocket lint in terms of the numbers of dollars that would be spent on trying to achieve this goal which is now really the shut down is becoming a bit of a farce. pete: chuck and nancy said the wall is expensive and ineffective. you know when you text somebody and you rite ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. chuck and nancy is that a joke. rounding error. ineffective everywhere walls are used they end up working. their people know that. jedediah: we have reaction from both sides on this and we have a...

Numbers are terrible but us getting involved will not make the numbers go down. if a counter regime comes in they will kill all assad forces. we will see a death spike either way. >>shepard: if assad regime falls the unknown which follows it is something that i think has a lot of people in washington and beyond very concerned about. >>guest: well, it does. it should. look what happened in egypt. egypt has some weapons in military but the military is more or less modernized opposed to other parts of the regime, opposed to the muslim brotherhood but in syria, the rebel forces have the third larg...