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In general, the culture is we have given the assignment of a quasi military culture. it's not a debating society where you say what about this, what about that. discussion to debate arguments on how to say something or whether it should be done once it's prepared. then there's little discussion. if you challenge something like that, you're viewed as insubordinate. i was told a number of times i was discussing religious issues which are quiet relevant as we are the infidel to the jihadist. i was discussing theology and i was told, listen, we aren't engaging in ecology. that's sort of shaping th...

Interrogation techniques. oh e. >> oh, yeah, sure. and there was no question, to me, and i think to many of my colleagues what this was. sure. >> you resisted. you said i'm not going to do this. what was your -- what were colleagues saying. i'm so fascinated reading this report. you can't pull down the front line operators and ajents who are working in this? e. what are people saying to each other? are you getting drinks late at night. >> i think you will always have a range of views in any institutions. all of the above, what you've described. in general, the culture is we have given the assi...