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In political campaigns, the most important thing, typically, one of the most important things is intensity. and what you're seeing right now is that a year from now, trump will be saying, if the senate does give him a quick trial and exonerates him, his people are going to be saying, he was exonerated. how angry are they going to be versus the debate base, which will be standing there, presumably getting more information coming out over the next year with all of these court case s pending, that already believes that republicans were acting politically here. and they're going to be told the pre...

Japan, we can, you know, figure out their trajectory when it's shot. putting rockets over our allies and saying you have the ability to miniaturize a nuclear warhead now and they do. they haven't perfected reentry on intercontinental ballistic missiles yet, but that's coming. what you have here is different than what you had in india and pakistan. you have nuclear weapons. you have a regime that says they're going to use them and a regime that throws them all over the place, making us think they might be willing to use it. what is that trigger point? it's hard to put out there. i think the nat...

Don't get a lot done. what i do is the same way that tip o'neal and ronald reagan worked together some years ago. when ronald reagan ran for office, he laid out the principles that he was going to foster. >> so it's about principles, not actual hard plans. in a million years did you ever think that a victory could come out of this debate base odd vagueness? i ask that because knowing in we knew all of the weapons both could quite honestly use and weapons the moderator would have available to press both candidates. >> you know what really aamuses me about that line, though? another part of the ...

It's difficult to argue with a guy who came out of paint creek high and went to a and m where he wasn't able to get into vet school. the fact is if you line up his bona fides against newt, rick perry might win a foot race but he's not going to win a presidential race. >> we have this idea out there we don't want book-learned presidents and that they're education elitists and then here's someone who -- >> we say that. people say that but they don't -- >> i think the republican field doesn't feel that way. i think part of newt's allure right now is this notion that he is this sort of intellectua...