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They wind up punishing people with them. too many and too much pc. do you agree with either? >> i don't think it's the role of the dnc chair to say there's too many or there's too few. i think we have spectacular candidates. my job is to make sure that everybody gets a fair opportunity to communicate their vision. we're moving through the debate cycle and in september we'll be raising the threshold. so they understand that you have to continue to make progress and what i think is exciting about this process is there's so many engaged people because these candidates all have a base of support a...

New deal is like political kryptonite. they don't want anything to do without. he is splitting the difference, he has promises without green new deal funding. only 1.7 trillion in federal spending which is a lot of money but to the left today, they want world war ii level mobilization. if they to spend 40 to 50% of gdp on this problem and joe biden isn't going anywhere near that. he is trying to assuage the left but not do it in a way that alienate those voters. >> martha: so why politically? you look at where he is right now, he has a head and almost all the polls doing very well with preside...

Republicans we had 16 candidates and i remember sitting in a room with people far more important than me saying we're going find out who we are now. we're going to find out who the republican party is going to be. great debate cycle. all the super stars in it. and we found out what the base wanted and what they wanted. throw everybody in washington out. drain the swamp. illegal immigration. and donald trump won. he does demand loyalty. no question about that. so at the end of the day, we're defining, and i hear what bob corker, who's my friend, says and mark sanford, who was governor while i w...

Isis claiming responsibility. this was the first time that women were allowed to vote or run for office. though, the female candidates were not allowed to talk with male voters. most of the campaigning was done online. for the first time in this republican debate cycle, donald trump may not be the biggest target. why? ted cruz. he's surging. that means he's going to take some hits. we'll break down the biggest republican rivalries and what everyone stands to gain and to lose. coming up. that's vegas, baby. technology empowers us to achieve more. it pushes us to go further. special olympics...

I've never seen that before where an audience booed the moderators and i hope it was a clear signal. >> so in what way was the rnc taking control? >> this is a great question because it goes to where we are right now and the campaigns themselves have indicated and negotiating on behalf of the all of the campaigns because they were worried about the debate cycle and came under the primary battered by two dozen debates. so this time the rnc cut the numbers down to nine and they announced the debate schedule ahead of time. when he announced to cut those debates down, the chairman said he was tryi...