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Medicaid. we got that done. i had that job to do and that's where i needed to be. >> that's what his argument was. look, i was doing the job i was elected to do. how do you respond to that? >> i have a lot of respect for him. he's won in the trump state. there's a lot to be said for that. at the same time we set a threshold and the rules were established back in february and we decided back in december that the first debate would be in june. so he's known all along. governor bullock spoke about it. we're not going to count open-ended surveys the way it was done in previous debate cycles. we've...

Debate a month ago, there were fireworks for the full 90 minutes. i think a lot of people who missed that debate are looking forward to tuning in to this one. >> we cannot underestimate the fact that these candidates get face time in front of 25 million viewers as opposed to in prior debate cycles, two or three million. a huge advantage from past seasons, is it not? >> it's an enormous advantage. this time in any other political cycle we're looking at two to three million viewers. the most viewers for any cable news primary debate was less than seven million. you had 24 million last time. we'l...