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Cornering them. think of the idea of letting anybody over the border who wants to come in. ms-13, the cartels and the terrorists must've been applauding tonight. because of these other people can come in, they can come in with them. they will never know they're here and then i will go kill people in new york where they happen to have killed a few too many people. >> laura: let's get mark penn on this. mark, i'm just fascinated. longtime democrat pollster. you watch this tonight. the two big dogs on the stage were bernie, who had tota be tod not to shout at least once, and warren, who got into ...

Cornering them. think of the idea of letting anybody over the border who wants to come in. ms-13, the cartels, and the terrorists must've been applauding tonight because of these other people can come in, they can come in with them. we'll never know they're here and then they will go kill people in islip new york where they have killed too many peopl people. it's insane. >> laura: i am fascinated, longtime democrat pollster, you watched this tonight. the big dogs on the stage, bernie who had to be told not to shout at least once. and warren who got into a war of words with a couple of the more...

People in islip, new york, where they have killed too many people. it's insane. >> laura: i am fascinated longtime democrat pollster, you watched this tonight. the big dogs on the stage bernie who had to be told not to shout at least once. and warren who got into a war of words with a couple of the more moderate folks. we'll get into that. your take on how this all plays in the real world, which is america. a lot of this debate doesn't actually apply to america. it's like they are running for prime minister of sweden, this would make sense, some of these concepts would make sense but in americ...

Attack mode. the temptation is to go out there and draw contrast. remember, you're talking about a very narrow space here that these candidates are competing within, and so there is going to be this tendency to say look, here are the differentiations, here's a reason why i might be a better fit for the progressive base. that could drive them to the left as opposed to focussing on president trump where they by and large agree. the dynamic is going to be different. i think tonight's debate doesn't have a clear front runner, you might see a little bit more contrast with president trump. tomorrow ...

It's twitter or facebook or other outlets like this, there w is no other place. if you can't talk on twitter, or facebook or what have you, what are you supposed to do? >> tucker: once they shut you down, people they disagree with, the debate doesn't happen. >> that seems to be the point. >> tucker: i ask this question everyday. what you think conservatives in the congress don't see thisha as the mortal threat to debate and speech that it is? >> i think some are starting to see it, but maybe not enough yet. chairman bob goodlatte had a hearing on this over the summer specifically addressed thi...