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Against the other. rob portman will take the place of obama in the debates. he will be tough on mitt romney because obama is going to be tough on him. on the other side when you look at the vice presidential debates joe bide will be try to laugh off everything paul ryan says. this debate doesn't need to be about humor. it needs to be about facts and paul ryan needs to take it to him when he starts to laugh. when the vice president starts to laugh at paul ryan, this is nothing to laugh about what's going on in the world we live in. it's not funny. we need to make it right and romney and ryan ar...

Republican, don't be talking about taking away rights. be talking about equal rights for gay couples. romney's challenge is to make sure what happened in the debate doesn't happen with gay marriage. he wants to avoid being stamped. comments like this are a bit awkward. >> he said the views were evolving. call me cynical, but i wasn't sure his vie marriage could get any bigger. >> we talked about how to respond to the gay marriage issue. president of the family research council praised romney's speech and criticized congressional republicans for taking a cautious line. >> i don't think the way ...

the most recent cnn o.r.c. polling says 51% of americans would hold republicans responsible if the debt ceiling is not raised. just 30% would find president obama more responsible. peter moresi joins us. i have to ask you this, you are an economist, you're a well-respected economist and we have spoken together for years. do you have any evidence of what so many conservatives are saying that if we were to increase taxes at all, at all at this point in an economic cycle, that it would actually hurt our economic recovery? >> well, increasing taxes wouldn't hurt anymore than, say, cuttin...

To make cuts. that's why we agreed and the white house last night, to make significant cuts. hard, but pov. but now the tea party, among others, but they're the biggest push, is trying to move its extreme social agenda, issues that have nothing to do with funding the government. they're willing, it appears, clearly to throw women under the bus, even if it means they'll shut down the government. because that's where we are. that is the one issue that was remaining last night. that agenda is an extreme age a agenda. i don't agree with their ideas on social policy. but in our democracy, those ide...

The tea party folks aren't even at the bargaining table. so you've got the democrats and the republicans and the tea partiers who are sort of putting a lot of pressure. >> putting a lot of pressure on the house speaker john boehner who is trying to come to some resolution with them and the rest of the republicans in congress. so we'll see what happens. they have what, 12 hours to go? >> all right, carol costello, we'll look forward to all the mail you're about to get. if congress can't pass a spending bill by midnight the money stops flowing to a lot of people. here's what they're saying abo...