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Election, i guess the reality is that it was felt, that they had a material impact on the results, and various people in the negotiations don't want them to have that material impact. so it's a very delicate situation and they are happening less. and that's one set of problems. but i think the absence of longform interviews, as well, is a real problem. we have very deep and complicated problems, dilemmas, and trade—offs that all benefits, i think, from discussion and benefit from some accountability. and, you know, everyone here does superb interviews. and i think democracy benefits hugely w...

Because it was two broadcasters joining together. i think when you look back over the past six or seven years a decade or so when these debates first happened, back at the 2010 general election, i guess the reality is that it was felt that they had a material impact on the results, and various people in the negotiations don't want them to have that material impact. so it's a very delicate situation and they are happening less. and that's one set of problems. but i think the absence of longform interviews, as well, is a real problem. we have very deep and complicated problems, dilemmas, and tra...

That material impact. so it's a very delicate situation and they are happening less. and that's one set of problems. but i think the absence of longform interviews, as well, is a real problem. we have very deep and complicated problems, dilemmas, and trade—offs that all benefits, i think, from discussion and benefit from some accountability. and, you know, everyone here does superb interviews. and i think democracy benefits hugely when those longform interviews happen, but they're also under threat, as is the debate format. i went to understand from all of you how you try and make these form...

A decade or so when these debates first happened, back at the 2010 general election, i guess the reality is that it was felt, that they had a material impact on the results, and various people in the negotiations don't want them to have that material impact. so it's a very delicate situation and they are happening less. and that's one set of problems. but i think the absence of longform interviews, as well, is a real problem. we have very deep and complicated problems, dilemmas, and trade—offs that all benefits, i think, from discussion and benefit from some accountability. and, you know, ev...

Felt, that they had a material impact on the results, and various people in the negotiations don't want them to have that material impact. so it's a very delicate situation and they are happening less. and that is one set of problems. i think the absence of longform interviews as well as a real problem. we have very deep and complicated problems, dilemmas, trade—offs that all benefits, i think, from discussion and benefit from some accountability. you know, everyone here does superb interviews. it benefits hugely with those longform interviews happening. they are also under threat, as is the...