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He says anything that comes to his mind that he thinks will get votes. but he has no intention of carrying through on his promises. >> but is that to your point that we've got come up with a plan? this isn't new, you know, you're from michigan, i'm from ohio, the plant in my town closed where i grew up. so is it that they don't actually have an answer or just the debate format didn't give them the right opportunity? >> i suspect that, you know, it would have been good if people had tried to get to some of those issues and people spent a lot of time on healthcare and immigration in the question...

Made. especially around the truancy program that she had in san francisco, how did, say, she implement that program and how did, say, she lose maybe control? a little control over it. what did she learn from it? what are some of the criticism that's she took to heart. how would she implement it differently today? these are things i would be interested in as a voter in learning about. but i don't expect those questions to be asked in that kind of debate format. >> all right. thank you both. enjoy the trip. try to get some rest and drink plenty of water. we'll see you soon. in case you missed ...

The first time and it worked for her. she has been in detroit the past couple of days, had a date night with her husband, going to dern and a concert. she will be on stage near cory booker and julian castro. booker has been going after joe biden on race issues leading up to tonight's debate. julian castro had a moment in the first round of debates, talking on immigration, taking on beto o'rourke. and he will try to make his case tonight to get a little more support. all these candidates, of course, had an opportunity to see the dynamics of debate night one. that maybe gives them a better feel ...

>> it does seem to be alarming that, you know, this week we had the mueller testimony, we had this senate intelligence report. but we had another incident this week that to me should actually raise more alarm bells. and that is the president seems to be standing alone in the republican party. even today on wanting to punish turkey, a nato member, for essentially going to russia for military help. and here the united states would like to sanction turkey. and president trump is begging them not to. look, i'm not saying there's a direct line here. but how does these dots not get put together in a...

Not ready for somebody to point pout a difference of opinion about the history of segregation in our country and what was necessary to deal with that, which at that time was busing, then you're probably not ready. >> all right, governor who does he match up with now? is he more prepared this time? since then all he talked about is how the debate format is not his thing. >> right, but i think he will be more prepared, he'll be ready and i think the staff has gotten him ready and will continue to do so. the key thing for the vice president, though, is to not play defense. you know, in football i...