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Think they're wrong. i say even in new jersey that's rude. >> that's saying something. >> right? so you've got to call people out on it. talk to the people at home. >> his argument is they're trying to pick the most conservative person. this is what they're looking for. who is the most conservative person. you need conservative debate moderators. like hugh hewitt which he thinks will help the process more. >> i don't care who the moderators are. it doesn't matter to me. whoever is up there, is up there. my job is to listen to the questions. answer the questions. if i don't like them, call them...

His credit card. he is a disaster with his credit cards. he certainly lives above his means. my jeb impression? i don't want to do that. i don't like showing a person sleeping at a podium. >> joining me is jeffrey lord and van jones. jeffrey, criticizing the debate moderators, whether me or someone else, going after fellow candidates, is the reality just that? that those sorts of comments are red meat for the base own they serve him well or is there concern in the campaign because he is trailing in two polls? y i think it's the first. i believe that he is giving voice to the base of the republ...

Nominee. if marco rubio is sweating, by definition, it's not low energy. he's out there with lots of energy. you don't sweat by being low energy. >> well, listen. on that point,we'll get to the finances in a second. i heard this in casual conversation about how he sweats and the water and what their take away is he's nervous and he's not ready for prime time. that's what trump is trying to tap into there. >> look at that debate. did he seem he was sweating out of nerves? >> wlabt the money? this is what the debate moderators are trying to get to. there are a lot of questions that remain with s...

Who is refusing to sign the letter why? >> because it's stupid. >> what do you mean? >> put a podium on the stage, stand me mind it and let the people ask me questions and i will answer them. >> what about the unfair debate moderators? >> well, listen, if you can't handle that, then you shouldn't be running for president of the united states. it's not that i like it. nobody likes being treated unfairly. but the bigger probable i had was that they didn't control the debate. he's going to say their goal, the goal of what he perceives as liberal democratic debate moderators is just a ding up. >> ...

If marco rubio is sweating, by definition, it's not low energy. he's out there with lots of energy. you don't sweat by being low energy. >> well, listen. on that point,we'll get to the finances in a second. i heard this in casual conversation about how he sweats and the water and what their take away is he's nervous and he's not ready for prime time. that's what trump is trying to tap into there. >> look at that debate. did he seem he was sweating out of nerves? >> wlabt the money? this is what the debate moderators are trying to get to. there are a lot of questions that remain with some of th...